Comments on: Memorization: optimizing flashcard review with spaced repetition http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/ Programming, personal knowledge management. Topics unstable. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:48:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Francois http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-8931 Francois Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:50:40 +0000 http://www.fsavard.com/flow/?p=205#comment-8931 Hey Mark, thanks for the comment. (I know of some other techniques, but most are related to memorization _tricks_ (ie. "make association lists", etc.), not with the organization in time (ie. "study this monday, then this tuesday", etc.), as spaced repetition does.) Hey Mark, thanks for the comment. (I know of some other techniques, but most are related to memorization _tricks_ (ie. “make association lists”, etc.), not with the organization in time (ie. “study this monday, then this tuesday”, etc.), as spaced repetition does.)

]]> By: Mark http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-8930 Mark Fri, 04 Jun 2010 05:15:11 +0000 http://www.fsavard.com/flow/?p=205#comment-8930 Hey, thanks for listing all these great softwares! I was really looking forward into finding some good software to memorize a few words that I wish to learn and also to study for some test, which eases up the momorization. Of course I would like to mention that repetition by itself isn't only the key to success, by how you repeat a higher effective memorized material is. I did a few courses on memory techniques and these software are just the perfect complement. Thanks for sharing !! Hey, thanks for listing all these great softwares! I was really looking forward into finding some good software to memorize a few words that I wish to learn and also to study for some test, which eases up the momorization.

Of course I would like to mention that repetition by itself isn’t only the key to success, by how you repeat a higher effective memorized material is.

I did a few courses on memory techniques and these software are just the perfect complement.

Thanks for sharing !!

]]> By: Francois http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-102 Francois Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:54:52 +0000 http://www.fsavard.com/flow/?p=205#comment-102 Hi Shahab. FlashQard looks real nice, I'm suprised I haven't heard of it before when I was searching for Linux spaced repetition software (well it's pretty recent but nonetheless). I like the way the next reviews are presented, with the number of good answers: it makes the review process more engaging. Hi Shahab. FlashQard looks real nice, I’m suprised I haven’t heard of it before when I was searching for Linux spaced repetition software (well it’s pretty recent but nonetheless).

I like the way the next reviews are presented, with the number of good answers: it makes the review process more engaging.

]]> By: Shahab http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-100 Shahab Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:07:48 +0000 http://www.fsavard.com/flow/?p=205#comment-100 Hi, I've not used SuperMemo because it is a Windoze (!) only software and I dont have Win. There is another great software for Linux people: FlashQard and here is the website: flashqard.sourceforge.net And of course it is free (as in freedom and beer) Hi,
I’ve not used SuperMemo because it is a Windoze (!) only software and I dont have Win. There is another great software for Linux people: FlashQard
and here is the website:

flashqard.sourceforge.net

And of course it is free (as in freedom and beer)

]]> By: Francois http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Francois Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:32:19 +0000 http://www.fsavard.com/flow/?p=205#comment-21 Thanks John for your comment. BetterMemo seems interesting (compared to Mnemosyne: I esp. like the future reviews lists/graphs). The thing is, though, I'm a features-oriented guy (vs usability-oriented), so I'm thinking: if it's Windows-only and 30$, my natural inclination would be to go for Supermemo (~40$ IIRC). As for Web versions, I'm pretty sure they'll get better with time. Simplicity is usually an imperative when developing Web apps (to send a clear message to users who check your site out for about 5 secs before moving on), so I guess they're trying to strike a balance with feature-richness. Concerning access from everywhere, I still need to check out PDA/phone versions of spaced repetition software; it seems like the perfect thing to do when you're waiting in line for 5 minutes. Thanks John for your comment. BetterMemo seems interesting (compared to Mnemosyne: I esp. like the future reviews lists/graphs). The thing is, though, I’m a features-oriented guy (vs usability-oriented), so I’m thinking: if it’s Windows-only and 30$, my natural inclination would be to go for Supermemo (~40$ IIRC).

As for Web versions, I’m pretty sure they’ll get better with time. Simplicity is usually an imperative when developing Web apps (to send a clear message to users who check your site out for about 5 secs before moving on), so I guess they’re trying to strike a balance with feature-richness.

Concerning access from everywhere, I still need to check out PDA/phone versions of spaced repetition software; it seems like the perfect thing to do when you’re waiting in line for 5 minutes.

]]> By: John Amato http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-19 John Amato Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:17:37 +0000 http://www.fsavard.com/flow/?p=205#comment-19 I agree that Mnemosyne is better than Supermemo in terms of usability. I've just found a new SRS - BetterMemo (http://www.bettermemo.com) and so far it seems even better than Mnemosyne. Unfortunately, it is paid, so I am torn between the two right now. As for the web sites for flashcards sharing and learning - I find the clunky at the time, but I hope they will improve in the near future. Desktop software (not only spaced repetition) is far better than the web product, but some day I want to be able to access all my data, no matter where I am. I agree that Mnemosyne is better than Supermemo in terms of usability. I’ve just found a new SRS – BetterMemo (http://www.bettermemo.com) and so far it seems even better than Mnemosyne. Unfortunately, it is paid, so I am torn between the two right now.

As for the web sites for flashcards sharing and learning – I find the clunky at the time, but I hope they will improve in the near future. Desktop software (not only spaced repetition) is far better than the web product, but some day I want to be able to access all my data, no matter where I am.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Jeff Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:52:20 +0000 http://www.fsavard.com/flow/?p=205#comment-11 Hey François. (I sent you an e-mail with some further rambling thoughts). You are right it will take time to gather enough data to be useful. I do intend to be as open as possible to allow the statistically-gifted out there to do their thing. Hey François. (I sent you an e-mail with some further rambling thoughts). You are right it will take time to gather enough data to be useful. I do intend to be as open as possible to allow the statistically-gifted out there to do their thing.

]]> By: Francois http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Francois Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:05:30 +0000 http://www.fsavard.com/flow/?p=205#comment-10 Thanks Craig for passing by. By the way, I first heard of SpicyElephant through this blog post (was posted on YC News I think): http://www.neverreadpassively.com/2008/08/my-experiences-on-one-month-startup.html Thanks Craig for passing by.

By the way, I first heard of SpicyElephant through this blog post (was posted on YC News I think):
http://www.neverreadpassively......artup.html

]]> By: Craig Baker http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Craig Baker Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:51:19 +0000 http://www.fsavard.com/flow/?p=205#comment-9 Thanks for the write up François, it was well timed for the release of the new version of http://spicyelephant.com Craig. Thanks for the write up François, it was well timed for the release of the new version of http://spicyelephant.com

Craig.

]]> By: Francois http://www.fsavard.com/flow/2008/10/memorization-optimizing-flashcard-review-with-spaced-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Francois Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:25:14 +0000 http://www.fsavard.com/flow/?p=205#comment-7 Thanks Jeff for your comment! Sorry I went over online versions so fast in my post :-| I tried to keep it short and stick to the overall principle. It's great to see you're trying to improve the core algorithms yourself. Have you noticed some differences yet? (edit: well, just saw your SM-2 version has only been up since July, but say we set aside statistical relevance? Erm :oops: ) The SuperMemo algorithm seems to have been changed so many times (SM-3, 4... 11!). But then as they mention on the Mnemosyne site: "we are a bit skeptical that the huge complexity of the newer SM algorithms provides for a statistically relevant benefit". <del datetime="2008-10-08T12:50:26+00:00">(edit: moved a part of my comment to the post)</del> Thanks Jeff for your comment! Sorry I went over online versions so fast in my post :-| I tried to keep it short and stick to the overall principle.

It’s great to see you’re trying to improve the core algorithms yourself. Have you noticed some differences yet? (edit: well, just saw your SM-2 version has only been up since July, but say we set aside statistical relevance? Erm :oops: )

The SuperMemo algorithm seems to have been changed so many times (SM-3, 4… 11!). But then as they mention on the Mnemosyne site: “we are a bit skeptical that the huge complexity of the newer SM algorithms provides for a statistically relevant benefit”.

(edit: moved a part of my comment to the post)

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